Against all odds and recent historical precedent, I managed to play a game of Kings of War recently. I met my opponent through a Facebook group, and after some correspondence, we scheduled a game, played on February 20th, and he was even nice enough to host the battle!
Kingdoms of Men List
We opted for 2k, as that is what my opponent had been playing with his sons. About a week prior we shared lists so we could zero in on any special rules we weren't already familiar with, and to hopefully save time looking through the rule books on the day. I shared first and brought the following:
Going into 3rd, I would like to continue the multiple small units (MSU) approach and see what I can accomplish with that and my little Regnum. Mostly, my list was just things I wanted to test. High of my list of things to explore are:
- Pikes (According to some online chatter, pike hordes are close to a "must-have" ... but I'm running MSU style, so regiments it is.)
- Indominable (Sounds like a good rule, but since I need to pay for it, I need to figure out best to run it. Starting my testing with just a few elite units.)
- Giants (Since I lost my ballista dinos from 2nd, these seem like good alternative blenders and anchors to my lines. They still aren't crazy-expensive, so running two with some supporting units... I'm thinking these will do well. But I need to test.)
- Ballista (In 2nd, I thought the ballistae were some of KoM's most cost-effective shooting. The price went up in 3rd, but we got a + to hit, and an extra shot, so these definitely need to be taken for a spin to test out.)
- Mounted Scout, Regiments and Melee (These seem very cool, and now that the scouts are 4+ in Melee, I think a regiment in particular could be some amazing utility plinking away at range and having a decent charge threat.)
I managed to fit a lot of my early test wants into this list! I lost out on running multiple Ballistae, and ultimately opted for two troops of Scouts over one regiment, to give me some more flexibility. The Scouts are mostly chaff after all. I wanted to shy away from magic and magic items to start out here, though our wizards are versatile and the Lute of Darkness on an ASB or the tried-and-true Maccwar's Potion of the Caterpillar on some of Knights may very well show up at some point, as they really are just great picks. Keeping it simple to start.
Alas, my minis are in storage. Packing stuff up the day before, I realized I only had one ASB on foot modeled up for the Regnum. (I have three on horseback as it turns out.) So grabbed a second ASB from the Ostermark box to proxy up. Alternatively, I could have swapped in a Wizard (probably with lightning bolt), as the need for another dedicated ASB is probably mitigated a bit by the four units with Indomitable Will and the Headstrong knights, and the magic would likely be pretty helpful. But this error is totally on me and should have been caught sooner, so proxy ASB is what I'm rolling with. Having that duo around is the kind of coverage I would have had in 2nd, so in addition to being sporting, proxying in this way should help me better understand and evaluate Indomitable Will as well.
Northern Alliance List
My opponent opted to run Northern Alliance, which I was excited to see! I like my Varangur, but I really like the faction design of the good guy version of these frigid warriors a lot. From a hobby perspective being able to just grab a unit of dwarves or naiads and run with it seems like a lot of fun, and I think you could do a lot of fun thematic things with the keywords and various sub-factions present in the roster. His army ended up being (I believe) entirely 3d printed, which was very neat. Resin printing is really coming along and I wish I was able to indulge! He brought the following list:
I had a busy schedule in the week leading up to the game, and prioritized a rules reread over everything else, so I got to looking at his list the night before. I think my opponent may have invested a little too much in upgrades, but the overall quality of his units is pretty high, so spending some points to bump each up could definitely be a viable strategy. He has lots of very durable units, lots of regeneration, and a lot of potential hurt from the Trolls and Lords on Frostfangs!
Going into the game my general "strategy" for the game was to 1) deploy back a bit, to give me some time to react, 2) not shoot at anything with regen, 3) try to match up my Scouts vs his Hunters to get the ranged advantage (I missed that they had Stealthy), and 4) try to match up my Giants against his Trolls to make use the Slayer rule.
Set-Up & Deployment
For the battle we decided to roll for scenario, and to reroll if we got Kill, since we wanted to play something objective-based. My opponent rolled for scenario, and we came up with Invade, needing to get more stuff on your opponent's side of the table than they get on yours. So much for deploying back!
I ended up winning all the roll-offs, and was boring, just picking the side I was already standing on. With deployment, I was able to get a slight edge with my more numerous drops. My opponent deployed their Lords on Frostfangs last, one on each flank. I ended up dropping the leftmost Giant, the Knights and the General after my opponent finished and feeling pretty good.
I ended up winning the roll off. I wouldn't be able to shoot much this turn, but ultimately decided to go first. This would get me a guaranteed shot off with the Ballista against the Dwarf Clansmen, let me take the central hill, and lastly, get my Scouts moving. If my opponent decided to be super aggressive, I should be able to charge down the hill and/or get my Scouts in the way of things to blunt the aggression. That was the thinking anyway.
Turn 1 Top: Kingdoms of Men
I went first, moving every unit except for the Ballista, which lined up a shot against the Dwarf Clansmen, one of the few units without magic items or upgrades. On the right, the Knights, Scouts and infantry moved up tentatively. The Trolls and Lord were both very dangerous, and were backed by the Ice-Queen, so I wanted to try and play this side slow.
Tentative advances on my right flank. |
In the middle, my forces clustered atop the hill, with my Scouts, Giant and Foot Guard securing it. The right Shield Wall could just move just up to the fence, and did so, with my other Pike unit walking up a bit and pivoting to face the Naiads across the way. The other Shield Wall just moved up a bit, ready to move towards either side of that white building. They were one of my first units I placed and I did not have a good plan for them yet.
On my left, the General moved up and the Giant scooted forward. After movement, the Ballista loosed, and scored 2 damage against the Dwarves. No other shots, and no combat, so that was the end of the turn. Lots of movement, but not much else.
Turn 1 Bottom: Northern Alliance
My opponent had very cautious first turn. On my left, was was quite wary of the charge range of my General. After some consideration, he decided to inch atop his hill with the Snow Trolls, and scoot around with his Lord on Frostfang, making sure to keep 20+ inches away from my General, and out of range of the towering Giant as well.
His Naiad horde decided they would sweep through the center of the field, around the building. I don't think the Dwarves nor the Prime moved this turn, which is arguably a mistake? The scenario is Invasion, and neither were really threatened, so moving up to support the Naiad's more I think would have been a better play. Most of his forces on my right shuffled around, with some the Hunters taking refuge in the forest. They were in cover, and Stealthy, so pretty well protected in there. Far in the rear, the second Hunter troop sidestepped, and on the far right, the Trolls and Lord cautiously advanced.
I think I see some openings. I go big/far with the Scouts on my right. With their nimble pivot they were able to sneak just past the Lord, and out of any charge arcs. If I can get the Scouts behind his lines, I can hopefully line up some nasty flank/rear charges later on (and test out their melee potential). With this in mind, the rest of my flank does not want to give a charge up yet to either the Trolls or Lord, and so all shuffle just outside of the max their charge range, waiting to see what will unfold on this side in the coming turns.
In the center, my threatening Giant and Foot Guard continue to hold the hill, hoping to make use of the extra bonus for charging off of it. That is a nice change that I do like. The nearby Scouts trot off the hill to take some shots at the Dwarves, scoring a few more points of damage against them if memory serves. The Shield Wall hops the fence. The center is crowded, but the Pikes can maybe threaten the Hunters if they advance, or lend some support in a fight against the Trolls on the right in the coming turns. If nothing else, this is Invade, and I need to consider getting them across the field anyways, so they slowly advance up as well, pivoting to face the forest now.
On the left, the General also sees an opening, and he flies up, and then pivots to threaten the flanks of both the Lord and the Trolls. Nimble is such a strong ability and after taking some beatings in 2nd Edition, I am starting to appreciate the power of a flying monster! The General definitely occupied a lot of my opponent's attention.
While there is 400ish points each here, the flank is pretty neglected for units. |
Turn 2 Bottom: Northern Alliance
Still wary of the flying General, my opponent moves their Lord on the left forward, getting out of my charge arc, and changes the facing of the Trolls to give me a frontal charge only. I am ok with that, as this entire flank is basically stalled out and not advancing.
In the center, the Naiad horde, Dwarves and Prime move up. The Hunters leave the forest, throwing javelins into the Pikes, dealing a crazy amount of damage (I think 4 damage from the regiment and an astonishing 8 damage from the troop? They hit on 4's and with piercing, wounding on 3's. They were far more dangerous than I was anticipating, even if we were to ignore the hot dice!) Unfortunately, the uninspired Pikes were obliterated with ease...
I did the first points of damage, but real first blood goes to my opponent. (The dice in front of the Trolls was maybe for marking a charge? Like from the infantry maybe? I don't recall). |
On the right, I had forgotten about the Ice Queen, who quickly uses her Icy Breath, and deals something like 8 damage to the Scouts, and they are well, blown away. The Lord on Frostfang is apparently nimble, which I had missed in my reading, and makes them even scarier, but he chooses to cower behind the Trolls, getting the Lord away from a charge from my Knights, and presenting only the more durable Snow Trolls. Had he moved up, I might have been able to take out the Lord with some combined charges, but I don't know. My opponent was cautious and I can respect not wanting to throw units away.
Turn 3 Top: Kingdoms of Men
I was a little shocked to lose both the Pikes and the Scouts out of nowhere. I can't effectively strike back this turn, but I can start really pressuring things now, and playing Invade, well, if my opponent sits on his side of the board all game, well, no points for him.
I decide to abandon the left flank. My General flies 20" ahead, now threatening a rear charge on the Naiads or a flank on the Dwarves next turn. I am hoping the juking the Snow Trolls and lord on the left will be enough to give me the edge in the center and secure some solid wins. The Giant from the left also turns his attention to the center, and in their place, a regiment of Shield Wall shuffles out.
A LOT looks to be gunning for those Naiads. They have Ensnare and Regen, so are be quite the grinding unit. |
In the center, my Scouts move out, and will either box the Naiads in or force them to commit to a fight next turn... with two Giants and a Foot Guard Regiment waiting to hit back. The Scouts do a few more damage to the Dwarves with the bows and I believe even waver them. The Ballista shoots, and I think gets 2 lucky damage on the Hunter troop that obliterated the Pikes. With Stealthy, the Hunters aren't even a good target for my shooting when they aren't in the forest! The Ballista will have fired every round this game, but only hit the Dwarves once and the Hunters once. This was not a good outing for the ballista gunner! The lines of fire were a bit rough, and my opponent didn't provide me with a lot of good targets. Even the "soft" Hunters proved pretty strong (due to me missing Stealthy in their profile), and my goal of picking them away from afar did not work out at all.
With the left abandoned, and the Naiad's heavily pressured in the center, I offer up the Pikes as sacrifice on the right. The Snow Trolls hit HARD, but they do still need to hit, and Ensnare would push them up to hit only on 5+... so the Pikes could theoretically survive. So I move them up to try and zone out other charges. The tactic is sound, but I don't think I did this right. I think I would have needed a few more inches (which I may have had with the Pike's movement) to block off the charge against the Knights in particular. I will need to be more careful in future games. But thinking the move it set, I move up a bit with the Foot Guard and Knights to threaten retaliation in subsequent turns.
I mean, they got this, right? |
Turn 3 Bottom: Northern Alliance.
On the right, the Ice Queen easily heals up the Hunters, and my opponent ultimately decides to not take the Pike bait, and to weaken my anvil unit instead committing to any charges here, skewering the Pikes with some javelins. The Lord sidesteps or nimble moves over (somehow getting a free pivot to turn towards the center... oops) and the Trolls back up, which should get them out of range of the Foot Guard.
I was expecting a Snow Troll charge this turn! In chatting, my opponent knew how good ensnare and phalanx could be, and so really didn't want to charge my Pikes in the front, with anything, if he could help it. The lack of a charge was also influenced a bit by some rules discussion, which I think we got wrong in the end.
The Lord is Height 4, and the Snow Trolls Height 3, so both can see the Pikes, and would meet the other criteria for a charge. However, we decided that both could not charge. We reasoned that charges needed to be declared simultaneously, and there was no way, when declared, that the Lord could make his charge without interpenetrating the Snow Trolls, which would be illegal. Looking in the FAQ, I think we got this wrong. Looking at it now, they both met the criteria for charges, and could declare simultaneously. The Snow Trolls would charge first, and take up their final position. The Lord could then get in there too, with the nimble pivots. Without Nimble, I think the frontage is too small and the one pivot would send the charger wide, but with Nimble, yeah, I think we ruled it wrong and my opponent should have been able to make that with both if he wanted to. So, rule query #1 is here! If someone could confirm this for us, I'd appreciate it!
The javelin damage does hurts, but the damage is more statistically reasonable, and the Pikes do hold. The exchange finally jogs my memory with the Indominable Will spread around my elite units as well.
All sorts of mistakes pictured here, but not bad for my first game back honestly. All that could have been avoided if my opponent was a little more daring with their Lord! |
I am not thrilled about this skulking Lord on a Frostfang... at least it is my turn next and I didn't move myself into this position. |
Turn 4 Top: Kingdoms of Men
As I issued move orders, I believe my words were "let's play greedy." I went pretty big this turn.
The Trolls on the right are a huge threat, but we are getting on in turns, and I do not want to fight them, especially piecemeal or with an anvil unit like my Pikes, so I decide to after the supporting units first. The Knights opt to charge the newly repositioned Lord (who has Lifeleech), and deal a fair amount of damage on the charge, but not enough to shake him. The Pikes charge into the very deadly Hunter troop, thankfully obliterating them and overrunning 6" to get out of the charge arc of the Trolls and making it into the forest. They only needed about 2-3" inches, but this still felt pretty risky. Both these units are now scoring for the scenario, and I am feeling ok about that, since the only thing scoring for my opponent currently is his intrepid Lord, so my Unit Strength is significantly higher.
Greed! The Thegn with the cool standard it just out of range if memory serves. Like my ASB's, he mostly wandered around the field this game. |
In the center, in victory over the Scouts, the Naiads positioned as best they could, but are outnumbered. Something was gonna hit them where their nets are not, and that something ends up being a Giant in the flank, supported by a now-ensnared Foot Guard.
I don't have any idea if this is enough to rout the Naiads. My gut says no, but I am hesitant to commit more, given all the units my opponent has in the area. If I commit more and it doesn't break, I'm looking at getting flank/rear charged myself. So instead of piling it on there, my really greedy play is to hit a few more units, to stave off some potential reinforcements. The quality of his units is better than mine, so if I can hammer stuff this turn and really isolate the Naiads, it won't matter if the horde sticks around for a turn, as I'll outnumber them in the coming turns, and even with their regen, I should be able to grind them out.
So, the General charges into the flank of the Dwarves, and the other giant smashes into the Hunter regiment instead of becoming ensnared with the Naiads. The whole point of holding the hill was to get the fun Thunderous Charge bonus in this big turn for charging down it, but I forgot about the bonus entirely. Fortunately, the greed pays off in a big way, and all three units in the center are obliterated.
Being normal infantry models, these weren't ideal targets for the Giants, (no additional Slayer attacks), but they rolled 5's and 6's for their normal d6 attacks and did a lot of damage, with the Naiad horde accumulating something like 18 damage. We weren't sure how the flank attacks would work, and opted for rolling once, getting the giant's attacks for the turn, and then doubling that number to get the flank attack total. That seemed better than rolling several times, but we couldn't find the rule or faq quickly, so rules query #2 here, if someone could let us know.
Surprisingly victorious, everything reformed. I did not plan on winning the main fight against the Naiads, so may not have positioned optimally. With the Shield Wall delaying stuff on the left, I chose to just mitigate the potential damage from the Prime, with everything presenting frontal charges, and threatening retaliation.
As I was snapping pictures, I again remember Indomitable Will, and my opponent is gracious enough to let me pop it on I think everything I can before he starts moving his units.
Turn 4 Bottom: Northern Alliance
I apparently failed to take any pictures for this turn. On the left, the Trolls rip through the Shield Wall, but I don't recall what the Lord on Frostfang did. He had no legal charges. Looking at the picture I took while remembering Indomitable Will (below), and comparing it to the turns to come I cannot figure out what he did and why.
I think my opponent overestimated the staying power of the Shield Wall, or just really wanted to make sure the Snow Trolls would score for the scenario. He looks to have opted to have the Lord just change facing to threaten a rear charge against them next turn. I think he wanted to make sure the Trolls would chew threw and eventually score. Playing the scenario makes sense.
In the center, the surviving Prime decides to take the least bad option and attack the Foot Guard. I thought this guy was another mini blender, on par with the Lords, but as it turns out, he has about half the attacks I thought he did, and the Guard takes some damage, but stands firm.
On my right, the Lord counter charges into the knights, healing himself for 1. The armor protects them well though, and only two damage sneaks through. The troop of Hunters opt to throw their javelins instead of charging. We think that units inhabiting the same forest would not get cover, but could not find the rule quickly to confirm. The Hunters roll ok, but are backed up by the Ice Queen, who uses Icy Breath and then pops the Amulet of the Fireheart to cast the Alchemist Curse. Under the weight of all this ranged damage, the Pike block that had the audacity to enter the forest is obliterated. Even with the Will popped, it does not take much to rout them. The Pikes have not had a good run this game!
The Snow Trolls on the right decide to charge the Foot Guard that lingered behind, and deal 9 damage. On the Nerve check, my opponent rolls pretty average, and they get a Wavered result. Rereading the Indomitable Will rule, we realize they gained Fearless, so miraculously, the Foot Guard hold strong, and are able to fight back next turn.
Turn 5 Top: Kingdoms of Men
My greedy turn paid off, and I am able to start capitalizing on things a bit.
On the left, my ASB runs forth to try and speed bump the Lord. I'm not sure this was needed, as the nimble Lord could totally just move around! But the ASB can't contribute to the scenario points. The Lord is dangerous, and can potentially yolo himself at say, the Foot Guard if they hang around, so I'd wanted to dissuade this in any way possible, and either attacking the ASB or going around will do that.
I should start hobbying my ASBs on speed bumps. Really set the expectation of what I need from them. I don't think they've Inspired anything so far this game. |
I am slowly getting better with my General. Eve just his threat has had a huge impact this game. Two flank charges in one game is probably a record for me too. |
It was another big turn for me. On the left, his Lord and Trolls made it through and are scoring, but it will be hard for them to contribute to the rest of the game. The crazy mobility of my General is working well for me, and now disrupting things on the right. The Knights were able to get pretty lucky. Their initial charge was good but not amazing, and without Thunderous Charge, their lethality wanes significantly. Rolling well and then getting a lucky waver on a Lord than can (slowly) heal himself was huge for me.
Turn 5 Bottom: Northern Alliance.
My opponent is looking towards the end of the game. On the left, the Lord charges the ASB, making short work, taking the overrun, and hoping to maybe drag down one more unit before the game is done. I did not think of just going around until I was writing up the report, so I don't know if going around occurred to my opponent at all.
On the right, my opponent's dice go quite cold. The furious Trolls regen only 1 wound, and the Ice Queen's heal flubs completely.
All of the Hunters finally leave the forest, with the last troop charging out and into the flank of the General, getting two damage in. The Lord counter charges the knights, but then we remember he was wavered. The Trolls do counter-charge the stoic Foot Guard, and rout them. Since they are engaged with the General we ruled that they could victoriously change facing to stare him down.
Turn 6 Top: Kingdoms of Men
This should be the last turn for each of us, and thankfully, I have a number of my units scoring. One Giant turns to face the Lord on Frostfang on the left. If my opponent charges.. he won't be scoring with the Lord. In the center, the Foot Guard move at the double to get far away and out of the charge arc as well. Safe from any reprisals currently, the second Giant turns to threaten the remaining Troll fight. Unfortunately the pivot is too much to get any movement in.
The Knights charge the lifeleech Lord. Since he was wavered last turn, the Knights took no damage, so would not have been disordered anymore, so I think they should have gotten Thunderous Charge back. I did not roll with it though, and with 3's and 5's, rolled well, accumulating enough new damage to then rout the Lord. The General likewise rolled well enough to land a few more wounds, and with the healing flubbed, managed to rout the Trolls too.
Turn 6 Bottom: Northern Alliance
My opponent starts to weigh his moves, and offers to call the game. Losing both the Trolls and the Lord on the right is too much to overcome for the scenario. All he can score with is the Trolls and Lord way out on my left, against my Foot Guard, Knights, 2 Giants and General.
Game Conclusion
The result was a 9 - 4 victory for the Regnum, but the game was far closer than that score shows. I think it was a pretty even match up throughout the game, and I just happened to get on top at the end due to the back-to-back missed regeneration and heal rolls late in the game.
I was quite happy with how I was able to use my General this game. Being deployed against so few units, he was able to spook that flank without committing, and flying around enabled some cool plays later in the game. I am getting better at utilizing him.
The charge query on Turn 6 was unfortunate. We thought we made the right call in-game, but re-reading some rules while writing this, I don't think so now, since he could have resolved the charges in any order. Still, the moves made as a result of our in-game decision weren't terrible, and there was time in-game to adjust.
My opponent brought a tough list, played a great game and was a wonderful host. Going into the game I definitely did not appreciate how potent the Hunters were, and my opponent used both those and their little forest expertly against me. Many thanks to him for the game and for letting me document it. It was good to move little dudes around on a table again, and writing up this report.
Testing Conclusions
It was a good game, a good introduction to 3rd Edition, and I even got to test out a fair number of things and units! I don't think I'll ever get the experience to run an "optimized" or "typical" list, even for my niche playstyle, so I think I'll keep this final section in future reports too. Lots to explore and test!
- Pikes. This was not a great test for them, as both units were picked apart by powerful ranged attacks and pretty hot dice. Still, while expertly dispatched, my opponent did not want to engage them on the front, and that says something about their potency I suppose. More testing is needed to figure out their durability.
- Indominable. This is a phenomenal rule! I will need to play around more with it. I think "elites" was a good place to start. I think a few upgrades will get me leave dedicated sources of inspiration behind for more "hybrid" sources of inspiration, like a Wizard with the Inspiring Amulet and an ASB with Lute.
- Giants. They did work this game. Not much in the KoM roster is really killy, but these were terrors on the battlefield for sure, and even survived the game untouched. Heroes/Monsters on 50mm seem roughly equivalent to normal infantry regiments, these 75mm titans are more like hordes, all concentrated into a small frontage. They seem quite potent.
- Ballista. If I can hang back I think these could be potent, particularly in multiples, but my opponent's list was hard and the scenario did not make it any easier! This was a disappointment, and I think I'll leave if out of the next few "all comers" style lists.
- Mounted Scout Regiments and Melee. Not tested, and the troops did not make it into melee. Ultimately the melee buff just gives them more utility.
Props again to my opponent for the good game and great introduction back to 3rd Edition! I hope to play again soon and test out many more things!
Great report, and thanks for the fun game. You handled your flyer perfectly, and I wasn't really prepared for him. I need to think through some flyer defense before our next game.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that the single ballista wasn't very effective from a damage perspective, but it did impact how I was thinking through movement/targets, so there's probably more value to it than simply the damage output.
Re the pike hordes, I had no intention of charging them frontally. Given their sp5, my plan was to plink them with my pack hunter javelins (12" range) and otherwise decline to engage. A horde might have been tougher to plink off that way, but you'd lose the maneuverability (like my naiads--great unit, but limited options when it came down to it).
Good game, and I look forward to the next round.